A disciple asked, “It seems that the Great Master Chinmuk was attached to wine and women. Is this true?” The Founding Master said, “I have heard that the Great Master Chinmuk liked drinking rice wine. The story goes that one day he went to get himself a bowl of rice wine and drank a bowl of brine by mistake, but it is said that he thought nothing of it. On another occasion, it is said that he was under a persimmon tree, when a lustful woman came over to him and wanted to entice him. He was about to comply with her wish, when a ripe persimmon fell from the tree. Without thinking, he walked over to pick it up, so that the woman felt embarrassed and went away on her own. How could a mind such as this harbor thoughts of wine and women? A master such as this is a tathāgata who is attached neither to wine when he drinks it nor to women when he is with them.”